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Gun Statistics Expert John Lott Victim of Identity Theft
CNSNews.com ^ | 8/04/03 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 08/04/2003 2:33:35 AM PDT by kattracks

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Dr. John Lott, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and author of the most widely cited research on civilian use of firearms against criminals, has been targeted by an online identity theft scheme, he disclosed Friday.

Lott operates his own website through which he makes available the raw data for the research cited in his most famous book "More Guns, Less Crime: Understanding Crime and Gun Control Laws."

Running a search for Lott's name on the Google search engine Friday morning, CNSNews.com found hundreds of links to pages talking about Lott and dozens of links to pages containing material written by Lott. The search even, if pursued long enough, yielded a link to Lott's official web page.

But the Google search also displayed "a sponsored link" for the web page "AskJohnLott.org."

click to enlarge "Ask John Lott: You can ask him any question you have about gun control or his books www.askjohnlott.org," the paid advertisement claimed, followed by a graphic indicator showing high interest in the website.

The only problem with both the advertisement and the website is that neither was authorized by Lott.

"I think 90-some percent of people who look at it will probably think it's done by me," the real Lott told CNSNews.com Friday. "When you look at the front page, it's not exactly my writing style, but it ... has my picture, it has a letter on the introductory page that [purports to be] signed by me."

The former senior researcher at the Yale University School of Law believes the creator of the website is committing a civil violation, if not a crime, by appropriating Lott's identity.

"They're using my name, they're taking it and using it in a way that I don't agree with," Lott said. "I think stealing is what it is."

The home page of the fraudulent site greets visitors with the salutation, "Dear fellow gun owner."

"I find that gun owners are usually pretty good at keeping themselves informed about the politics and issues surrounding gun control and gun rights. However, many of us just don't have the time - or the ability - to keep abreast of every new twist and turn in the fast-changing - and confusing - world of politics," the unknown creator of the fraudulent website writes. "That's why I decided to have this site made."

The page provides a link to "Click here to ask me a question" and is signed "John Lott." The biographical information on the "John Lott's Background" page is mostly accurate, with the exception of an apparently sarcastic reference to the pseudonym "Mary Rosh," which Lott began using in Internet chat rooms discussing his work after receiving harassing and even threatening telephone calls from participants in the chats.

Lott surprised at 'effort and expense' to discredit him

Lott believes the motivation for some person or organization to create the fake website is apparent.

"The person or the group, whoever it is that's doing this, wants to use my name to advance causes with which I disagree, by directly saying that I support things I don't support" Lott said. "The person is also using it to try to discredit me in some way, by putting out into the public debate statements that will be attributed to me that were not made by me."

Lott believes whoever is responsible for the site must be extremely angered by his research, considering the cost of designing and maintaining a website, subscribing to a commercial email response service and purchasing advertising from the most popular Internet search engine in the world.

"It's not only the effort, but they've gone to some expense with regard to this, too," Lott observed. "Some of these ads and stuff that they've put up ... these are not cheap things to do."

Fake site's creator responds to questions, claims to be Lott

Questions sent using the link provided received an automated response:

"That was a great question. Thanks for taking the time to ask me," the creator of the fake website wrote. "This email you're receiving right now is automatic, just to let you know that I know you exist. I will reply to your email shortly."

The reply went on to falsely imply that Lott had reconsidered his support of the right of law-abiding individuals to sell personally owned firearms to other law-abiding citizens without government permission, repeating claims of "anti-gun lobbyists" and attributing to Lott the conclusion, "it suddenly appears that maybe we need to check our assumptions." The email is signed, "Good luck. John Lott."

In other email messages reviewed by CNSNews.com , the unknown author claiming to be Lott inaccurately stated Lott's position on the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act currently under consideration by the Senate. Lott supports the legislation, which would block lawsuits against gun makers, distributors and dealers when criminals misuse a lawfully sold firearm.

"This is not John Lott's website," one angry reader familiar with Lott's true positions wrote to the site's author. "Why are you pretending to be a website actually run by Dr. Lott?"

The reader was even angrier when he received what he called an "outrageous" response.

"Why are you pretending not to believe this site? I believe, if you look at my track record, you'll see that everything I've [sic] done in my entire career has been upfront and straightforward," the Lott imposter wrote. "Why have you decided now to question me?"

Again, the email written by the creator of the fraudulent site claimed to be sent from, "John Lott."

"I've tried talking to the Internet Service Provider to try to get information on who's running the website and they have been unhelpful," Lott said. "They basically said that I would have to get a criminal subpoena to find out who is doing it."

Bogus website operator may be guilty of federal crime

A "whois" database search for the domain name "AskJohnLott.org," revealed that it is fraudulently registered to "Mary Rosh" at the nonexistent "Center for Truth." The alleged organization's mailing address is listed as "380 Main Street, Washington DC, New York 10012."

When CNSNews.com called the telephone number listed for the domain registration, an unidentified female answered the phone. When asked about the website, she placed her hand over the mouthpiece of the telephone and said, "It's somebody asking about the John Lott website. What do you want me to tell them?"

A male voice responded, "Just tell them you asked around and no one really knows anything about it." The female repeated the response as she had been instructed and terminated the call.

Because the Internet, by its very nature, is an interstate entity, federal laws govern its civil or criminal misuse. A former Justice Department attorney, who spoke to CNSNews.com on condition of anonymity, said the operator of the website may intend it as a "little prank, but he could be in for a big surprise."

"Fraud by wire, radio, or television" (18 U.S.C. 1343) is a federal crime:

"Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned ... or both."

Depending on the circumstances involved, the crime is punishable by fines of up to $1,000,000 and imprisoned for up to 30 years.

The former prosecutor said the intentional misappropriation of Lott's photograph and name, combined with the emailed responses attempting to convince readers that the site is really run by Lott most likely also constitute identity theft and could be subject to both criminal and civil prosecution for those acts, as well.

"This person or persons could end up bankrupt, in jail for years, and barred by the court from ever even touching a computer again as long as they live," he speculated.

Lott would not say if he has contacted law enforcement authorities directly about criminal prosecution of the website's operator or operators, but he is taking action.

"Things are moving a little bit more slowly than I guess I'd like," he admitted. "I'm going to talk to some lawyers, to see what other options I have, next week."

Google apparently removed advertisement, but would not comment

Michael Mayzel, public relations representative for Google's advertising department, said the company will not discuss specifics regarding any advertiser's account for privacy reasons. But Google does, he explained, have a standing policy to protect individuals, such as Lott, whose names are being misused.

"When we receive a complaint from a trademark owner, our review is limited to ensuring that the advertisements at issue are not using the trademarked term as a keyword trigger," the policy states. "If they are, we disable those keywords from the ad campaign."

Google considers an individual's unique name to be that person's trademark in the same manner that the unique name of a business would be considered the property of that business.

Mayzel would neither confirm nor deny that Google had taken any action regarding the advertisement, but more than a dozen searches conducted Friday afternoon for variations of "John Lott" and "Ask John Lott" did not result in the ad being displayed.

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KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; deceit; identitytheft; johnlott
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1 posted on 08/04/2003 2:33:35 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: *bang_list
Bang!
2 posted on 08/04/2003 3:01:40 AM PDT by Djarum
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To: Djarum
The site is still up as of now.
3 posted on 08/04/2003 3:35:41 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: kattracks
He's fine as long as they don't mistake him for TRENT Lott.
4 posted on 08/04/2003 4:37:43 AM PDT by Those_Crazy_Liberals (Ronaldus Magnus he's our man . . . If he can't do it, no one can.)
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To: kattracks
I wonder how those denial of service attacks work...
5 posted on 08/04/2003 4:55:31 AM PDT by El Laton Caliente
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To: kattracks
Google charges advertisers on a per-click basis. Thus, if all of us Freepers were to go to Google, type in the search terms, and then click on that ad, the owner of the site would be charged money by Google.
6 posted on 08/04/2003 5:33:29 AM PDT by ikka
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To: kattracks
This kind of thing - no matter which side of the political debate it happens to - are a black mark on the Internet and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
7 posted on 08/04/2003 5:34:33 AM PDT by SW6906
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To: ikka
"Mayzel would neither confirm nor deny that Google had taken any action regarding the advertisement, but more than a dozen searches conducted Friday afternoon for variations of "John Lott" and "Ask John Lott" did not result in the ad being displayed."
8 posted on 08/04/2003 5:35:39 AM PDT by SW6906
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To: SW6906
did not result in the ad being displayed.

I tried it five minutes ago with the search term: john lott . It was the first link presented.

9 posted on 08/04/2003 5:38:39 AM PDT by ikka
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To: kattracks
The WHOIS server for the registry is apparently down, perhaps because of the inquiries or maybe the operator took it down.

I'm curious about the phone number and wonder what area-code is assigned to it. But, CNSNews didn't publish it.

10 posted on 08/04/2003 6:04:36 AM PDT by justlurking
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To: justlurking
I found the number elsewhere: it's a 917 area code, apparently in the NYC area.
11 posted on 08/04/2003 6:26:14 AM PDT by justlurking
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To: justlurking
Phone number listed in registration records is 9179132591.

917 appears to be New York City area.

A reverse number search at smartpages.com produces no information for this number, which implies to me it seems to be unlisted.

I would say from the information presented that it's impossible to tell whether the number connects you with the people who run the site, or whether it's a bogus number belonging to someone else, although I would lean toward suspecting it may be the actual number of the registrants.
12 posted on 08/04/2003 6:29:47 AM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: justlurking
A google search for the number also produces no information.
13 posted on 08/04/2003 6:30:51 AM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: justlurking
Domain ID:D98296683-LROR
Domain Name:ASKJOHNLOTT.ORG
Created On:27-Jun-2003 22:10:30 UTC
Last Updated On:27-Jun-2003 22:16:48 UTC
Expiration Date:27-Jun-2004 22:10:30 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R91-LROR
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-03418410
Registrant Name:Mary Rosh
Registrant Organization:Center for Truth
Registrant Street1:380 Main Street
Registrant City:Washington DC
Registrant State/Province:New York
Registrant Postal Code:10012
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.9179132591
Registrant Email:maryrosh@mail.com
Admin ID:GODA-23418410
Admin Name:Mary Rosh
Admin Organization:Center for Truth
Admin Street1:380 Main Street
Admin City:Washington DC
Admin State/Province:New York
Admin Postal Code:10012
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.9179132591
Admin Email:maryrosh@mail.com
Billing ID:GODA-33418410
Billing Name:Mary Rosh
Billing Organization:Center for Truth
Billing Street1:380 Main Street
Billing City:Washington DC
Billing State/Province:New York
Billing Postal Code:10012
Billing Country:US
Billing Phone:+1.9179132591
Billing Email:maryrosh@mail.com
Tech ID:GODA-13418410
Tech Name:Mary Rosh
Tech Organization:Center for Truth
Tech Street1:380 Main Street
Tech City:Washington DC
Tech State/Province:New York
Tech Postal Code:10012
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.9179132591
Tech Email:maryrosh@mail.com
Name Server:GW.DATAGRAM.COM
Name Server:NS.CONTAGIOUSMEDIA.ORG

14 posted on 08/04/2003 7:24:54 AM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: kattracks
On the website, billed as "See some of John Lott's answers":

Q: What's your stance on the immunity bill?

A: The stance I'm taking on this issue has surprised many of my supporters. Truthfully, I question the necessity of the immunity bill. While I know there have been many unfair lawsuits against gun manufacturers, I'm starting to believe that safer, tight restrictions
will come from the privatized world, rather than the government agencies. If the gun manufacturers can still maintain a sense of fear of lawsuit, then they can do more to prevent the guns from getting into the wrong hands.

Q: I really want to believe you, but, I've heard that you're in the pay of the gun industry. Is that true?

A: I think the gun control people are going to continue to bring it up. I've been in debates this year with people from Handgun Control Inc. and other gun control groups in which they asserted flat-out that I've been paid by gun makers to perform studies that favor the NRA. Obviosly, these claims are false! I have always been an honest source.

Q: Can I buy hundreds of semi-automatics without being reported to law enforcement?

A: Yes, you're in luck. Licensed gun dealers have no requirements to report multiple sales of long guns, even though this is the kind of gun that terrorist organizations love.

Q: I want to get roughly ten hand guns for my friend's 50th birthday party, but I really don't want the police to know about this. Is there any way for me to do this without getting reported?

A: Hopefully, you haven't saved this for the last minute. By law, licensed gun dealers must report to federal law enforcement whenever someone buys two or more handguns in 5 business days. So, if you have two months before the party, you can just buy one gun every six days, and you shouldn't have any problem at all.

Q: I live in Tuscon, so you know I've been dealing with the Sniper/Peeping-Tom. I'm glad he was finally caught, but now everyone's worried about the copycats who have sprung up. Is there anything we can do about this?

A: Jennifer, you've asked a very poignant question. However, it is still legal to purchase .50 caliber sniper rifles. These weapons can hit a target a mile and a half away. Thankfully, the Sniper/Peeping-Tom was caught. People like him are far and few between, which means that it's not really a problem that .50 caliber sniper rifles are so easily attainable.

Q: Why would you try to help people get around the laws? Who on earth would advise someone to buy a .50 caliber rifle to shoot people at a mile and a half?

A: Dear Mark Klamer, I'm sorry that you have misunderstood me. I am not advising anyone to shoot people at a mile and a half distance. In fact, I'm letting people like you know what we have against us. Our laws allow anybody to buy .50 caliber "sniper" rifles. As a staunch gun rights supporter, I can't deny how this just makes us look bad. Wouldn't you agree?

Q: My husband is abusive & I feel threatened by him. What do you recommend?

A: You'd be surprised how common a question this is. However, my answer to you - which is the same answer I would give to anyone else - is that the thought of guns should not even cross your mind when looking for a solution to your domestic issues. See a professional about this issue. There are people and organizations dedicated to this. Shooting him is NOT the answer.


I think that it's pretty obvious that anyone familar with Lott would recognize this as false, but the gun grabbers will really latch onto this.
15 posted on 08/04/2003 7:31:35 AM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: kattracks
What the "Ask John Lott" site owner is doing is outrageous (if not illegal), but isn't calling it "identity theft" a bit over the top?
16 posted on 08/04/2003 7:31:46 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (http://c-pol.com)
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To: wysiwyg
This is weird

http://www.whoismaryrosh.com/

17 posted on 08/04/2003 8:52:44 AM PDT by lowbridge (You are the audience. I am the author. I outrank you! -Franz Liebkind, The Producers)
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To: kattracks; Travis McGee; harpseal; Squantos; doug from upland; Dan from Michigan; blam; Dog Gone
This is a pretty sick hit against Lott. The anti-gunners are [pun intended] taking cheap shots.
18 posted on 08/04/2003 8:59:47 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: lowbridge
http://www.freerepublic.com/~maryrosh/
19 posted on 08/04/2003 9:03:42 AM PDT by lowbridge (You are the audience. I am the author. I outrank you! -Franz Liebkind, The Producers)
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To: Southack
I'll bet it traces back to the filthy enemies of the constitution at the Violence Policy Center, or the Brady Bunch (former HCI).


20 posted on 08/04/2003 9:24:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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